<div dir="ltr"><br><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 6 September 2013 13:06, Javier Ruiz <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:javier@openrightsgroup.org" target="_blank">javier@openrightsgroup.org</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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                <div style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:15px">The deal seems to be that ancestry will scan the microfilms from FS. FS will then make these available for free.</div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Where is this stated? I haven't seen any such commitment.</div>
<div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:15px"> The challenge is to make them accessible for transcription ideally under an open license. Maybe too optimistic?</div>
</blockquote><div><br></div><div>It would seem consistent with FS' mission, and utterly inconsistent with Ancestry's. I'm prepared to bet that money will win.</div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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                <div><div><br></div><span style>-- </span><br style><span style>Javier Ruiz</span><br style><a href="mailto:javier@openrightsgroup.org" style="color:rgb(0,106,227)" target="_blank">javier@openrightsgroup.org</a><div style>
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                <p style="color:#a0a0a8">On Friday, 6 September 2013 at 10:52, Ben Laurie wrote:</p>
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                    <span><div><div><div dir="ltr"><br><div><br><br><div>On 6 September 2013 09:28, Javier Ruiz <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:javier@openrightsgroup.org" target="_blank">javier@openrightsgroup.org</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote type="cite"><div><p dir="ltr">It is not spelt out,  but it seems they will give free access via family search and integrate it in <a href="http://Ancestry.com" target="_blank">Ancestry.com</a>? </p>

<p dir="ltr">This is good,  now the next step is letting other people transcribe the digitised materials.</p></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Why is this good? Clearly it will leave all of these resources behind a paywall.</div>

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<p dir="ltr">In the USA the scanned copies will be public domain,  but here they may need to license transcription. </p>
<p dir="ltr">Todd,  I think this is a great chance. I will let others chip in. </p>
<p dir="ltr">Nick Barratt had been in touch with the lds here for a while. Nick,  what do you think? </p>
<div><div><div>On 6 Sep 2013 04:41, "<a href="mailto:todd.d.robbins@gmail.com" target="_blank">todd.d.robbins@gmail.com</a>" <<a href="mailto:todd.d.robbins@gmail.com" target="_blank">todd.d.robbins@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution">


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Two of the world’s largest family history research organizations are joining forces in an effort they say will bring 1 billion historical records online.</div>


</div><div><div><br></div></div><div><div>The LDS Church-operated FamilySearch International and the Utah-based company <a href="http://Ancestry.com" target="_blank">Ancestry.com</a> announced a deal Thursday in which they will collaborate to bring online the church’s vast worldwide collections of family-history records.</div>




</div><div><div><br></div></div><div><div><a href="http://Ancestry.com" target="_blank">Ancestry.com</a> CEO Tim Sullivan said while details need to be worked out, his company planned to pour more than $60 million into the effort over the next five years.</div>
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<br></div><div><i>Source: <a href="http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/money/56830408-79/records-ancestry-com-online.html.csp" target="_blank">http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/money/56830408-79/records-ancestry-com-online.html.csp</a></i></div>


</blockquote><div><br></div>This is great news! Though I think we continue efforts to encourage the adoption of open licensing of this digitized content via our organization and others. I'd be willing to help coordinate a team to work with FamilySearch, Ancestry, OGA/ORG, OKFN, et al. Anyone, interested in joining me?<div>




<br></div><div>Cheers!<br clear="all"><div><br></div>-- <br><div dir="ltr"><span style="font-family:arial;font-size:small">Tod Robbins</span><div style="font-family:arial;font-size:small"><font color="#666666" face="arial, sans-serif">Digital Asset Manager, MLIS</font></div>




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