[Opengenalliance] Mormon church’s FamilySearch joins forces with Ancestry.com

[Ron Ferguson]

Ben,

I have no connection with either Ancestry or FS., but I do not understand how you can be so definite in your views. Don't Ancestry offer the FS. compiled 1881 census for free?

Ron Ferguson
http://www.fergys.co.uk/

Ben Laurie <ben at links.org> wrote:

>On 6 September 2013 18:12, Ben Laurie <ben at links.org> wrote:
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>> On 6 September 2013 13:06, Javier Ruiz <javier at openrightsgroup.org> wrote:
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>>> The deal seems to be that ancestry will scan the microfilms from FS. FS
>>> will then make these available for free.
>>>
>>
>> Where is this stated? I haven't seen any such commitment.
>>
>>
>>> The challenge is to make them accessible for transcription ideally under
>>> an open license. Maybe too optimistic?
>>>
>>
>> It would seem consistent with FS' mission, and utterly inconsistent with
>> Ancestry's. I'm prepared to bet that money will win.
>>
>
>BTW, you can see how its going to be on FS already, e.g.:
>
>https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XXV5-9NM - free transcription of a
>record
>
>http://www.fold3.com/document.php?doc=10015978&xid=215&p=ma - for pay image
>of the record
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>>>
>>> On Friday, 6 September 2013 at 10:52, Ben Laurie wrote:
>>>
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>>>
>>> On 6 September 2013 09:28, Javier Ruiz <javier at openrightsgroup.org>wrote:
>>>
>>> It is not spelt out,  but it seems they will give free access via family
>>> search and integrate it in Ancestry.com?
>>>
>>> This is good,  now the next step is letting other people transcribe the
>>> digitised materials.
>>>
>>>
>>> Why is this good? Clearly it will leave all of these resources behind a
>>> paywall.
>>>
>>>
>>>  In the USA the scanned copies will be public domain,  but here they may
>>> need to license transcription.
>>>
>>> Todd,  I think this is a great chance. I will let others chip in.
>>>
>>> Nick Barratt had been in touch with the lds here for a while. Nick,  what
>>> do you think?
>>> On 6 Sep 2013 04:41, "todd.d.robbins at gmail.com" <todd.d.robbins at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Two of the world’s largest family history research organizations are
>>> joining forces in an effort they say will bring 1 billion historical
>>> records online.
>>>
>>> The LDS Church-operated FamilySearch International and the Utah-based
>>> company Ancestry.com announced a deal Thursday in which they will
>>> collaborate to bring online the church’s vast worldwide collections of
>>> family-history records.
>>>
>>> Ancestry.com CEO Tim Sullivan said while details need to be worked out,
>>> his company planned to pour more than $60 million into the effort over the
>>> next five years.
>>>
>>> *Source:
>>> http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/money/56830408-79/records-ancestry-com-online.html.csp
>>> *
>>>
>>>
>>> This is great news! Though I think we continue efforts to encourage the
>>> adoption of open licensing of this digitized content via our organization
>>> and others. I'd be willing to help coordinate a team to work with
>>> FamilySearch, Ancestry, OGA/ORG, OKFN, et al. Anyone, interested in joining
>>> me?
>>>
>>> Cheers!
>>>
>>> --
>>> Tod Robbins
>>> Digital Asset Manager, MLIS
>>> todrobbins.com | @todrobbins <http://www.twitter.com/#!/todrobbins>
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